FXUS63 KIWX 082339 AFDIWX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORTHERN INDIANA 640 PM EST SUN NOV 8 2009 .AVIATION... SATELLITE SHOWING SCT CIRRUS TO OUR SOUTHWEST MOVING THIS WAY. THESE HIGH CLOUDS COUPLED WITH A LIGHT SOUTHERLY WIND OVERNIGHT SHOULD HELP LIMIT BR FORMATION. CONDITIONS STILL WARRANT CONTINUING WITH MVFR CONDITIONS. WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY APPROACHES ON MONDAY WITH INCREASING AND LOWERING CLOUDS THROUGH THE DAY. MOISTURE LIMITED SO JUST BROUGHT CIGS DOWN TO LOW END VFR FOR NOW BY END OF PERIOD. WIND SHIFT WILL ALSO ACCOMPANY THIS FRONT IN THE AFTERNOON. && .SHORT TERM... SECOND HALF OF A BEAUTIFUL WEEKEND TODAY AS LAST NIGHTS WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY HAS LIFTED BACK NORTH RESUMING WARM SW FLOW ALLOWING TEMPS TO RISE NEAR 70 ACROSS THE CWA. 12Z MODELS INDICATING SOME VERY DRY AIR ALOFT WITH DEWPOINT DEPRESSIONS ABOVE H7 AOA 30C WRAPPING INTO THE REGION WITH THE LAST GASP OF RIDGING OVER THE SOUTHEAST. THIS SHOULD PRECLUDE ANYTHING BUT HIGH CLOUDS TONIGHT AND WITH XOVER TEMPS EVEN HIGHER IN THE LOW 50S FEEL THAT SOME PATCHY FOG DEVELOPMENT IS POSSIBLE ALTHOUGH THE PRESENCE OF GRADIENT WINDS... SOMEWHAT LESS MOISTURE IN THE NEAR SFC LAYER...AND POSSIBILITY OF CIRRUS MAKING HEADWAY INTO THE REGION SHOULD MITIGATE THE MORE DENSE VARIETY WE SAW THIS MORNING. ADDITIONALLY DEEPER MOISTURE WILL POTENTIALLY ARRIVE JUST BEFORE DAWN IN THE WEST PUTTING A CLAMP ON TEMPERATURE DROP . SFC LOW PRESSURE TO OUR NW TODAY WILL RAPIDLY PROGRESS THROUGH SOUTHERN QUEBEC TO THE CANADIAN ATLANTIC COAST THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT TRAILING A LONG COLD FRONT THAT BECOMES SLOW MOVING AS UPPER FLOW LARGELY PARALLELS THE BOUNDARY THROUGH THE PERIOD. RESULTANT LOW LEVEL CONVERGENCE ASSOC WITH FRONTAL PASSAGE IS UNIMPRESSIVE AND INSTABILITY AHEAD OF THE FRONT ON MONDAY AFT/EVENING IS SIMILARLY PALE WITH LI/S OF -1/-2 AND MUCAPES AOB 200J/KG. ADDITIONALLY BUFR SOUNDINGS SHOW CONSIDERABLE WARM AIR ALOFT TRASHING LAPSE RATES. WILL THEREFORE NOT INTRODUCE THUNDER WORDING...AND CONTINUE THE GOING TREND OF POPS FROM NW TO SE ALONG AND POST-FRONTAL AS LOW LEVELS ATTEMPT TO SATURATE WITHIN MODEST MOISTURE INCREASE WITH PASSAGE OF THE FRONT. MINOR ADJUSTMENTS MADE TO POPS BASED ON 12Z MODEL TIMING BUT THE GENERAL APPROACH REMAINS INTACT. && .LONG TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... CONFIDENCE IS STARTING TO WANE FOR THE EXTENDED FORECAST AS THE MOVEMENT AND EVENTUAL EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION OF IDA THIS WEEK WILL PLAY A STRONG ROLE IN AUGMENTING THE DOWNSTREAM FLOW PATTERN WITH RAMIFICATIONS IN THIS AREA. THIS LOSS OF CONFIDENCE IS SHOWN WELL IN THE GEFS RMOP GRAPHICS...WHICH FROM LAST NIGHT/S 00Z SIMULATION SHOW LESS THAN A 20 PERCENT PROBABILITY OF THE GEFS MEAN FORECAST VERIFYING BY THE END OF THE PERIOD. BELIEVE THAT THE MAIN IMPACT OF IDA WILL LIKELY BE TO SLOW DOWN THE UPSTREAM FLOW PATTERN AS BOTH THE GFS/ECMWF SHOW A PRETTY INTENSE CUT OFF LOW FORMING OFF THE EASTERN US COAST BY THE WEEKEND. OUTSIDE OF IDA...THE CORE OF LOW HEIGHT ANOMALIES OVER EASTERN SIBERIA WILL MOVE EAST...TAKING UP RESIDENCE OVER ALASKA. THIS WILL PUSH A LOW HEIGHT ANOMALY CURRENTLY OVER THE GULF OF ALASKA INTO THE WESTERN NOAM...WITH IT/S EASTWARD PROGRESS TOWARDS OUR AREA IMPEDED BY THE ABOVE MENTIONED IMPACTS OF IDA. FRONT PASSING TO START THE PERIOD WILL TAKE ON A ANA-FRONT STRUCTURE WITH CONTINUED LIFT WELL BEHIND THE LLEVEL FRONTAL BOUNDARY. GIVEN THIS STRUCTURE...AND THE INCREASED AMOUNT OF DOWNSTREAM BLOCKING...EXPANDED TUESDAY AFTERNOON POPS NORTH AND WEST...AND THIS TREND MAY HAVE TO BE FURTHERED BY LATER SHIFTS. CLOUDS/PRECIP CHANCES WILL ALSO KEEP TEMPS DOWN...AND WILL CONTINUE CONSERVATIVE HIGH TEMP FORECAST...WITH TEMPS IN THE LOWER/MIDDLE 50S...A LITTLE BELOW FULLY MIXED T92 VALUES. THE NICE STRETCH OF MID/LATE WEEK WEATHER STILL APPEARS TO BE IN TACT WITH SURFACE RIDGING BUILDING IN FOR THE WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY TIME PERIOD. TEMPS WEDNESDAY WILL NOT REBOUND EVEN WITH MORE SUN AS COLD ADVECTION ON THE WESTERN FLANK OF DEVELOPING EAST COAST CUTOFF WILL LOWER T92 TO AROUND 3C. BY THURSDAY AND FRIDAY...EXPECT MODERATING TEMPERATURES AS RIDGING ALOFT SHOULD BEGIN BUILDING IN FROM THE WEST AND ALLOW TEMPS ALOFT TO REBOUND. HIGHS IN THE MID/UPPER 50S LOOK GOOD GIVEN T92 7-8C. BY NEXT WEEKEND...WESTERN CONUS TROUGHING SHOULD CONTINUE TO SLOWLY TRUDGE EAST...GIVEN PERSISTENT WESTERLY FLOW UPSTREAM SOUTH OF THE ALASKA LOW HEIGHT ANOMALY. HOWEVER...GIVEN THE DOWNSTREAM BLOCKING INFLUENCE OF IDA OR IT/S REMNANTS...EXPECT THAT IT WILL TAKE MOST OF THE WEEKEND FOR ANY FRONTAL SYSTEM TO REACH OUR AREA. THEREFORE... WILL KEEP SATURDAY DRY...BUT INTRODUCE CHC POPS SATURDAY NIGHT/SUNDAY. CERTAINLY LOW CONFIDENCE AT THIS RANGE...BUT GIVEN THE PROXIMITY OF THE TROUGH...BELIEVE POPS AT OR ABOVE CLIMO /ABOUT 30 PERCENT AT SBN-FWA / ARE WARRANTED. WILL CONTINUE TEMPS ABOVE CLIMO SATURDAY...AND THEN TREND TO JUST ABOVE CLIMO SUNDAY GIVEN UNCERTAINTY IN THE TIMING OF THE ARRIVING TROUGH. THIS YIELDS MID 50S FOR HIGHS SATURDAY...AND LOWER 50S SUNDAY. && .IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IN...NONE. MI...NONE. OH...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...LUD LONG TERM...ARNOTT AVIATION...LASHLEY